Viet Nam Vets MC / Legacy Vets

no disrespect intended to anyone in VNV or LEGACY VETS. nothing but sincere respect for you guys but chicago sbmc should be forever ashamed. baretta is the biggest putz of all.
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second brigade is a bunch of pussy motherfuckers with no balls and no heart.they turned their backs on a loyal brother to please another club instead of backing him like true brothers should. fuck the sbmc.
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This is a sincere thank you to your club, and especially Q-Ball. He went out of his way, by alerting us of a member in dire condition. He has kept in contact with me throughout the ordeal. Fred 'Fritz' Mullir passed early this a.m. Thank you brothers. Sincerely, grunt, LM#704, Cmdr. Co. north chap. 3-1, State Rep. Purple Heart Riders. 303-670-0624.
ed'grunt'latini <sargent196infantry@msn.com>
evergreen, co. United States of America

Great site, keep up the good work Brothers.
SPOOKY <spooky1@wildblue.net>
Front Royal, Va. USA

I'm looking for info on how Airborne is doing. Thanks Smoke~ Wind & Fire MC, Whiskey Row Chapter Prescott, AZ
Smoke <arizonatundra@yahoo.com>
AZ USA

to all of our american P.O.W.s M.I.A.s V.O.W.s &;1%ers IT is my religious belife & opion that you are ULTRA VERIES GOD!!!!!!!! their is no life,breath,freedom,choise,libberty,processof happiness,independanceor belife with out you!!! I was recenty told that i cant hold you as a higher power in classes at ada county jail and that you dont give a rats as about me . I responded P.O.W.S, M.I.A.S, V.O.W.S & 1%ers our THE POWER BEOUND ALL OTHER POWERS THATS MY RELIGIOUS BELIFE AND OPINION,AND ITS NOT FOR SALE OR TRADE TOO ANY OTHER GOD OR GOVERMENT!!!! thank you for every thing even the things im not aware of HAPPY FATHERS DAY your sons & daughters of america!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scott bigler jr <shrlgrl2@yahoo.com>
boise, id U.S.A.

Brothers & Sisters, Since VN I ve pretty much been a loner. I don t think anyone gives a sh#t about the VN war or the soldiers who fought there. So, I don t bother talking about it, I just go on by myself, not much of a social person, I keep to myself most of the time. The friends I have are people who took the time and wanted to get to know me. I value them, they are so few. I won t be the first to say hello in a crowd, you might even think I don t want to be there, but that s the way it s been with me since VN. I was a door gunner in VN. I was with the 1st Inf in 69 and was re assigned to the 173rd Abn in 70 and then again to the 1st Avn In 71, I left VN in 72. I tried the VN Vets MC club in Boulder City, NV when they started up back in 1989. A short while after being accepted I turned in my colors, they wanted to act like a MC Gang rather than represent their bylaws, I ve had enough with fighting. The chapter no longer exists. Well, It s been 20 years and out of curiosity and a sense of wanting to openly represent being a VN vet, I ve been looking at the VNVMC from the internet. Interesting, to note the Legacy side. Legacy Vets is probably a good thing since the VN vet is a dying breed. In 2008, I met Merlin (hope I spelled his name right) at HD in GJ and we talked about the VNVMC briefly and that conversation stayed with me. At that time I was reluctant to get involved. Anyway, I just thought I might want to try the MC club thing again. Merlin gave me the impression that it wasn t going to be like before. Take care and remember: Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for you....Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
Ben Copley <bcopley52@msn.com>
Grand Junction, CO US

Great time at Nomad's this weekend Brothers!! LRB
Wayback <kmacklvmc@hotmail.com>
Meeker, CO

G'day guys..a mate put me onto this site...I was a 'tunnel rat' in Vietnam in 1970...now with the Vietnam Veterans Motorcycle Club Queensland Chapter.....luv your site... and what you stand for....a group of us are travelling to California in late May 2010 for a couple of weeks....hiring bikes and doin some travelling.....hope to catch up with a lot of you blokes....already made contact with the blokes in Vegas.....just heard about your Nomads Poker Run in Montrose Colorado June 5th.....couple of us would like to extend our trip and ride over to join you guys...if that is ok????? ....don't want to take up too much space hear so if someone can get back to me it would be very much appreciated....stay upright and stay safe guys...hope to hear from you soon and to catch up with you....Feral aka Keith Burley
Keith Burley <feral1950@hotmail.com>
Brisbane, QLD Australia

Yesterday was a proud day for me!!! Love and respect to all!! Prospect Tiller
Prospect Tiller <Roguepressure1@msn.com>
Loma, CO USA

Wow! I didn't know the Guest Book didn't allow for spacing. It's a mess. Sorry.
Gary S. Turk <gst@q.com>
Security, CO USA

I was looking at just what Colorado had concerning Vietnam Vets after seeing about Wisconsin having a big "Welcome Home" for Vietnam Vets in May, including an Honor Ride scoot to open the 4 day weekend. I'm sad to see there isn't much in Colorado that has to do with Vietnam Vets sadly enough, especially because there is so much of a military presence here. So when I found your website and saw that you even consider membership open to "Bastard Veterans" like myself, I was surprised. I hope thee is room to ad this full article to the Guest Book that I wrote years ago. It still rings true today in most cases, and that sucks. So here is the article. Bastard Veteran I served for 8 years, 2 months, and a few days as an Army Medic, and did so proudly. Of that time, I was overseas for 3 years and 4 months. I was awarded 2 Good Conduct Medals and a Meritorious Service Award during my time in the Army. I was a good soldier and did everything that is expected of a soldier. Had I been assigned to combat I would have gone to combat, and there was never any question about that. So because I served from 1972 until 1981 I fit into the time frame that makes me a Vietnam Era Veteran. This is where I have trouble. If I call myself a Vietnam Era Veteran, and meet another vet who was in the military at the same time but served in combat, he does not consider me his brother. In his mind if I didn t do any time in country, then I am not really a Vietnam Vet. The Era thing seems to really screw things up. A Vietnam Era Veteran is by definition, Anyone who served in the armed forces during the Vietnam War between August 1964 and May 1975 . Because my years of service fall into that time frame, I am what some people might call a Vietnam Vet . However, a large number of veterans who actually were in Vietnam and fought in combat do not consider anyone else who was in the service at the time a Vietnam Vet unless they were physically in country. Those vets were in a whole other place, and I honor them for that. While I did not see any combat while I was in the Army, I was at the same time subject to the possibility. Although I was never in country in Vietnam, I did receive the same dishonorable treatment as every other soldier received in any major airport during Vietnam. I was spit on by another human being, another American citizen at that, while walking through O hare Interntional Airport in Chicago. I was assailed by a crowd of fellow Americans and I was called a baby killer and a murderer simply because I was wearing an Army uniform. This happened twice at O Hare over a 2 week period of time, once when I arrived there on leave and then again as I left to return from leave. I don t claim that these incidents entitle me to anything near the same honor due to a vet who saw combat, but want people to understand that I considered myself every bit as much of a soldier as they were at the time regardless of our combat records. I felt the same way during my entire 8 years of service even though I never stepped into Vietnam physically. America treated members of the armed forces terribly during and after the Vietnam War. All soldiers returned from service to hatred, shame, and dishonor and it took nearly 20 years before America ever owned up to it. I didn t toss the coin that decided which ones of us went to Vietnam and which ones didn t. I was right next to you guys in Basic Training and at AIT. When orders came down, I did what they said to do, honorably and proudly. So why am I pushed aside by my own brothers and considered less of a veteran and less of a man? When the USA was involved in Desert Storm in 1990 the response to returning service members was totally different. There was a lot of shame that people needed to own up to after 20 years of ignoring veterans and the fact that it had hurt veterans a lot. The Desert Storm vets came home to parades, free college, discounts on cars and about everything else retail, parties, and cheers at airports. Those of us who were spit upon in airports saw things like this on TV and were pissed off. I was working at the Post Office during this time and had to stand up during ceremonies for fellow letter carriers who were given medals for their heroism in the Middle East when in reality most of them never left the airports in the US. Those who did go to the Middle East were home in less than 2 months, under 30 days in many cases, and never saw anything besides smoke in the far distance. None the less, these men and women were treated as super heroes and super stars. It was at this time that people started to think back on how they had treated Vietnam Era Vets, many who had endured a full year of hell in combat. All of the Desert Storm Vets were given Medals and citations and were hailed as heroes while true heroes from the Vietnam Era, who had been basically forgotten for the past 20 years, were never even welcomed home. It took this brief encounter in the Middle East to make people remember the Vietnam Vets and how they had been forgotten. I had a lot of resentment at this time in history. I was angry as hell to see these people hailed on TV, in newspapers, and everywhere else as modern heroes after doing basically nothing. To be called a Desert Storm Vet was to be called a hero while to be called a Vietnam Vet was to be considered a murderer. What s wrong with this picture? Why did it take another act of war to make people finally come to terms with an act of war from two decades earlier? At least America was finally starting to recognize Vietnam Vets as the true heroes they are. But this is where it really started to be tough for me. Although we were finally seeing all vets as being someone to be honored, we were also finding it important to label each of these vets. There are WWII Vets, Korean War Vets, Desert Storm/ Gulf War Vets, and Iraq War Vets all alive right now. Each of their eras are easily recognized and honored. Then we have the war that took place in Vietnam. If you were in the service during the time any of these other wars took place you are simply considered a veteran of that war. In the case of Vietnam however, we have found some reason to separate the honor into two specific categories. You are either a Vietnam Vet or a Vietnam Era Vet. But anyone who is like me and was never physically in country finds himself a bastard veteran who is not welcome into the fraternity of the Vietnam Era by those who were in country. I might just be by myself feeling this way, but I really doubt that. I am not seeking any glory or wanting to take anything away from guys who were in country, but I don t see any reason why I am resented for not having been sent to Vietnam. I stood the same chance as any other service member did at the time of going to Vietnam. I just wasn t chosen. Does that make me any less of a soldier than someone who did go? Should I be made to feel like less of a veteran than the guy who stood a few feet down in line from me and got those orders for Vietnam? I don t think so. Yes you went into combat and risked your life and I respect and honor you for that, but should that make you hate or distrust me? Am I not your brother because I didn t go to Vietnam and instead was stationed in a hospital somewhere else caring for our fellow soldiers? While every other veteran in this country can proudly wear a patch, or pin, or ball cap that has something embroidered on it proclaiming their service during one war or another, I can t. I could wear a Vietnam Veteran cap or something, but as soon as I tell you I wasn t in country, I m being a jerk or even worse, I m in need of an ass kicking from you because you were. That steals my pride from me. That makes my 8 plus years in the Army worth nothing. Every man ought to be able to have some pride in their service to their country, but because I was never boots on the ground in Vietnam I am not a Vietnam Veteran. Since nobody seems to want to acknowledge the people who served during the 11 years of the Vietnam War but didn t serve in combat, it leaves us not only feeling like we were never welcomed home, but we also face the fact that our own fellow servicemen haven t acknowledged us as being part of anything. I can t think of any other way of describing it except to say, I m a bastard veteran.
Gary S. Turk <gst@q.com>
Security, CO USA

Welcome home brothers. I am from Colorado Springs originally, I live in North Carolina now.I am a proud member of the RED and BLACK, SECOND BRIGADE MC, Chapter W. Just checking out your website, keep up the good work. If anybody ever comes out to the east coast, give us a call, we would like to get together and have a cold one. RED and BLACK NATION, LRB HOGWILD SECOND BRIGADE MC CHAPTER W NC
HOGWILD <dmercier001@carolina.rr.com>
Kannapolis, NC USA

Brother Top, please call or e-mail me for the Palin Picture. LRB BBO
Google LVMC <googlelvmc@yahoo.com>
Anchorage, AK 99567

hey brothers, believe someone had a table set up at Casper this past January and had some of the lady patches there, mine has come apart on the top border and am looking to another to replace it. can someone put me in contact with the sec or treasurer
Romeo VNVLCMC Nebraska <romeo_nevnvmc@yahoo.com>
Lincoln, NE

Charter member B colo springs 87,Hello my CO Brothers. It's Mardi Gras in AlafuckinBAMA,hope to see y'all in TX........
TRAMP <trampvnv@yahoo.com>
Grand Bay, AL USA

Christmas ones I mean
KMACK <kmacklvmc@hotmail.com>
D Chapter, CO USA!!

Webmaster- can you e-mail these pics?
KMACK <kmacklvmc@hotmail.com>
D Chapter, CO USA!!

GREAT TIME AT THE CHRISTMAS PARTY!!!! GO TOMMYGUN!!! ~KMACK D CHAPTER
KMACK <kevynmack@hotmail.com>
Meeker, CO

Just stopped in to wish everyone a great x-mass and Happy New Year.
Dan (Hangaround D Chapter) <ren_grizz@yahoo.com>
Montrose, CO USA

Just wanted to pay my respects to all patch holders. My mother calls me Jim. semper fi. going to Washington State 12/14/2009
Prospect....chap. "C" <aaltodesign111@msn.com>
Wellington, CO USA

Looks great brothers. Come on down to New Orleans and visit sometime. I have a place for anyone that wants to stay. LRB
Iron Joe <Ironjoelvmc@yahoo.com>
New Orleans, LA USA

Merry Christmas toall the Brothers and Their Families and Happy New Year
NRB <vnvnrb@yahoo.com>
Rapid City, sd

Keep up the good things you are doing. My son-in-law is in Chapter D. I'm very proud.
Sandi Carr <sandicarr@bresnan.net>
Grand Junction, Co. Mesa

Love the club & the meaning behind it. I solute you all! Cat
Catherine Crowell <catcrowell7_22@yahoo.com>
Montrose, CO Montrose

Hi..I am looking for Sis Toes we meat at Nationals in Albuq.NM email me want to exchange pics ..and by the way was great meeting all the Broothers and sisters had a blast..God Bless all
PEARL <lrcsashie@yahoo.com>
Tularosa, NM Otero

trying to contact SUMO your HM. I am a HM located in AZ could you have him contact me at 808-896-9819 or salrussi@gmail.com thanks Sal LRB
sal

Great site brothers! We have added your site to our links page, could you please add Hawaii "C" chapter to your links page? Our address is www.crazychapterhawaii.com LLRB Gravy Vice Pres. "C"razy Chapter Hawaii
Gravy <crazychapterhawaii@yahoo.com>
HI

Thanks for all the Vet's past and present for your sacrifice's! You will never be forgotten! THANK YOU!
Johnny <motocyco69@comcast.net>
Denver, Colorado U.S.A.

just wanted to stop by and give some love to my brothers in Colorado. glad to see most of you up at nationals and hope to see you all at the next regionals. LRB
Rigger, SA, Unforgiven Ch. Killafornia

I just want to thank you all for fighting for our freedom. And All that you do for our freedom and for the vets and the fallen. I have the highest respect for you all. My God bless you all. I wish I could join your club but am not military. You will always have my support. Thank you all
Brad <brad5552@yahoo.com>
CO USA

My Brothers, saw where you came on our site, just returning the L & R. I was stationed at Carson from 99' - 03' and my Daughter lives up in Divide. So I will come out that way often. Hope to meet ya'll soon. LRB Rev Uhaul Chpt A, WA Chaplin
Rev Uhaul <uhaul_lvmc@yahoo.com>
Yelm, WA

A huge THANKS to the VNV members that attended Hippy John's Memorial to his life, in Monte Vista. It meant a great deal to all of us here in Colorado. Our National President sends his THANKS also. Nite Train VOVMC National Sec./Treas. http://vovmcco.com/ Asst. PGR HOTH Coordinator http://www.coloradopgr.org/hoth.htm (Help on the Homefront) About Vietnam The tragedy- indeed, the immorality-of those years was that for the first time in our history our country and its government failed to match the heroic sacrifice of our men in the field. This must never happen again." - Ronald Reagan
Nite Train <vovmcnitetrain@yahoo.com>
Denver, Co USA

Brothers, Stopping by to Give Love %26 let you know Chapter "I" NY has a new website. VNVMCLI.com LRB, Sinner
Sinner <tandk1597@verizon.net>
Long Island/NYC, NY

I really like your page. I liked the pictures. Ride safe.
Indian <indianpi@aol.com>
Las Vegas, NV,

hope to see allyou brothers at the national in reno aug 27. Take care brothers forever
T-bone <vail2@msn.com>
gillette, wy usa

God Bless- Those that shed their blood for me and i for them will always be my brothers in arms.- Amen
Maddog <kenkat89@comcast.net>
Westminster, CO USA

Saving to come next year for the run to the wall. Last in states 86 fond memories of colorado. I am a member of the Australian VVMC North coast chapter. Served in infantry 71 Phouc Tuy province Australian army.
Fleecy <panhead@tadaust.org.au>
Lismore, nsw Australia

Just spreading lots of Love, Respect, and Brotherhood to all my Brothers.
Just Al C-Chapter

Howdy Western Slope Heads. I mean Western Slope Brothers. I hope all is well on the other side of the mountain. That is the slippery slope. LLRB Dane
Dane <vnvmcdane@comcast.net>

just wanted to say hey to my brothers on the west side, hope all is well, congrates on the website! LRB
caretaker <caretakervnvmc@msn.com>
Loveland, co USA

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